Post Modern - CathNews New Zealand https://cathnews.co.nz Catholic News New Zealand Thu, 17 Dec 2015 19:59:36 +0000 en-NZ hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 https://cathnews.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/cropped-cathnewsfavicon-32x32.jpg Post Modern - CathNews New Zealand https://cathnews.co.nz 32 32 70145804 The Flying Spaghetti church approved to solemnise marriage https://cathnews.co.nz/2015/12/18/church-of-flying-spaghetti-approved-to-conduct-marraiges/ Thu, 17 Dec 2015 16:00:23 +0000 http://cathnews.co.nz/?p=79976

A groundbreaking New Zealand decision has led to a few disturbances in the fabric of religious time and space. The registrar-general of births, deaths and marriages Jeff Montgomery has approved the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster as an organisation to solemnise marriages. Massey University professor of history Peter Lineham has questioned the decision by the registrar-general and Read more

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A groundbreaking New Zealand decision has led to a few disturbances in the fabric of religious time and space.

The registrar-general of births, deaths and marriages Jeff Montgomery has approved the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster as an organisation to solemnise marriages.

Massey University professor of history Peter Lineham has questioned the decision by the registrar-general and said he struggled to find any over-arching philosophy other than satirical intent.

The Church of the Fly Spaghetti Monster's chief office-bearer and 10 members applied in November.

The application was approved under a sub-section of the Marriages Act, satisfying the registrar-general that the principal object of the organisation was to uphold or promote religious beliefs, philosophical or humanitarian convictions.

The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is based on a belief in an airborne god formed from spaghetti and meatballs.

Adherents of the church wear colanders on their heads and describe their religion as "pastafarianism".

"I really think the registrar-general needs to answer. I am not at all convinced there's a genuine statement of values," Lineham says.

"[Historically] the New Zealand Government has been very coy about recognising religion."

"If you take Scientology, New Zealand was more cautious in its treatment than Australia and Scientology was certainly very slow to gain recognition for marriage celebrants and for tax purpose."

"I know some people who think The Force is rather more meaningful than a spaghetti monster."

"I am startled and I think the registrar has some explaining to do."

Montgomery said the purposes set out by the church were educating and training people, particularly atheists and superstitious people, about Flying Spaghetti principles and practices.

Those principles covered human rights, cultural and spiritual diversity, ethics, relieving poverty and advancing education.

"In considering the matter I have referred to the Objects of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, reviewed material available online about this organisation and considered other organisations already able to nominate marriage celebrants."

"A review of media and the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster's international website show a consistent presentation of their philosophies."

"While some claim this is a 'parody organisation', members have rebutted this on a number of occasions."

New Zealand law does not define religious, or philosophical, organisations eligible for approval to perform marriages.

Most organisations approved to perform marriages are faith-based and cluster around well-known religious views.

However, alternative philosophies have been granted official licensing capabilities, including yoga, Wicca, Scientology, Heathen, Druidism, Humanism and Reiki spiritual healing.

"As registrar-general it is my role to apply the relevant legislation."

"In this case, my decision can only be based on whether the organisation upholds or promotes religious beliefs, or philosophical or humanitarian convictions."

"No judgment is made on the validity of those beliefs or convictions."

The chief office bearer in the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, the Top Ramen, said this was just the first step; they now need to to nominate marriage celebrants for approval before they can start conducting weddings.

According to the Ramen, who, for earthly reasons wishes to remain anonymous, the church has thousands of followers, although membership is not yet recognised in the census.

"We are a bona fide church, and our people do like to get married, some of them several times," she told Morning Report.

"We like to have baptisms and babies and celebrations and divorces, and it's always nice to have official marriage celebrants to preside over these celebrations.

"Churches are all about communities and celebrations."

There are around 2000 independent celebrants, 6000 organisational celebrants and more than 700 organisations approved to perform marriages in New Zealand.

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Joe Bennett and the Pope https://cathnews.co.nz/2015/10/13/joe-bennett-and-the-pope/ Mon, 12 Oct 2015 18:02:29 +0000 http://cathnews.co.nz/?p=77703

An Anglican theologian and blogger, Bosco Peters has replied to a "letter" NZ columnist Joe Bennett wrote to the Vatican suggesting it forget about the theology and just focus on being nice. Bennett gave a big thumbs up to Pope Francis, saying, "Whatever Pope 'Tubby' Francis has, we need to bottle it". But he advises the Pope, and presumably Read more

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An Anglican theologian and blogger, Bosco Peters has replied to a "letter" NZ columnist Joe Bennett wrote to the Vatican suggesting it forget about the theology and just focus on being nice.

Bennett gave a big thumbs up to Pope Francis, saying, "Whatever Pope 'Tubby' Francis has, we need to bottle it".

But he advises the Pope, and presumably religious people in general, to "ditch theology".

"Leave the scriptural dogma to the mad fanatics of the desert. The wealthy West already has," he says.

In his "reply" on behalf of the Vatican, Peters says "We at the Vatican don't usually read your columns, being tired of the hackneyed anti-religious, straw-man arguments, or as your guru, Dawkins, would say, "meme".

Peters deconstructs some of Bennett's straw men.

He goes on to say that Bennett's guru Richard Dawkins "is an insightful biologist."

But while "he has helped people understand Darwin's theory of evolution and its mechanisms," he "lacks qualifications to expound about philosophy or religion" and he "is clearly quickly out of his depth in those areas..."

Turning the tables Peters advises Bennett to "get ahead of your own game for once."

"Accept that your secular, New Age, post-modern goose is cooked and that if you want to be a serious player in life you must ditch the lot and just concentrate on the stuff that's true and good."

Bosco Peters has an "ecumenical website of resources and reflections on liturgy, spirituality, and worship for individuals and communities"

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Same label different contents - beliefs are changing https://cathnews.co.nz/2011/10/25/christain-the-name-is-the-same-the-beliefs-are-changing/ Mon, 24 Oct 2011 18:30:42 +0000 http://cathnews.co.nz/?p=13967

Two books have recently been published that study the beliefs of the emerging generation. Religious self-identification, it seems has remained very stable, in the United States with 84% calling themselves Christian in 1991, compared to 85% in 2010. But many embrace the title without backing it up in practice. For example, only 45% strongly believe the Read more

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Two books have recently been published that study the beliefs of the emerging generation.

Religious self-identification, it seems has remained very stable, in the United States with 84% calling themselves Christian in 1991, compared to 85% in 2010.

But many embrace the title without backing it up in practice. For example, only 45% strongly believe the the Bible is totally accurate in all of the principles it teaches. This declines to only 30% for those born from 1984 onwards. Only 34% of the adult public believe that there is any absolute moral truth, with barely 3% holding this among those born in 1984 and later.

These are some of the findings of George Barna, a prolific author who founded the Barna Research Group which he talks about in his book "FutureCast: What Today's Trends Mean for Tomorrow's World." Based on numerous surveys of public opinion, the book looks at where society is today on a range of social issues.

In the second book "Lost in Transition: The Dark Side of Emerging Adulthood," Christian Smith, a professor of sociology at the University of Notre Dame, along with a number of colleagues, conducted in-depth interviews with a broad range of people in the age range of 18-23. It examines the factors that influence the beliefs of this age group and then goes on to discuss the Emerging adults' beliefs about morality, which they found, "was not consistent, coherent, or articulate."

Read Father John Flynn's review of these books in ZENIT

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