Flag burning - CathNews New Zealand https://cathnews.co.nz Catholic News New Zealand Thu, 19 May 2011 02:34:59 +0000 en-NZ hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 https://cathnews.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/cropped-cathnewsfavicon-32x32.jpg Flag burning - CathNews New Zealand https://cathnews.co.nz 32 32 70145804 The right to infuriate - legal but morally questionable https://cathnews.co.nz/2011/05/20/the-right-to-infuriate-legal-but-morally-questionable/ Thu, 19 May 2011 19:00:09 +0000 http://cathnews.co.nz/?p=4090

An action can be legal but morally questionable. "Whether it was legal or illegal doesn't change the question of its morality. Among others throughout history, Nazi Germany, with its Final Solution, and South Africa with its apartheid, would have deemed their actions legal. This didn't make them moral; morality will always transcend the fickle laws Read more

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An action can be legal but morally questionable. "Whether it was legal or illegal doesn't change the question of its morality. Among others throughout history, Nazi Germany, with its Final Solution, and South Africa with its apartheid, would have deemed their actions legal. This didn't make them moral; morality will always transcend the fickle laws of states," said Anthony Ross in a letter to Wellington's DomPost.

Ross defends the flag burner's right express moral indignation at the foreign policy of the United States and others. " But I would like her to know that a country's morality is born from the collective morality of individual citizens. The mirror she refers to should first see her image and only then will she have the moral integrity, and credibility, to publicly pass judgment on others.

Steven Price reflects on these issues. "Of course, that doesn't mean that every protester has magic access to the truth. Some are crackpots. The point is that it is vital for society to be constantly challenged by people who strongly believe that things should be done differently," he says.
Read his piece in Media Law Journal

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Freedom to infuriate - Flag burning and Virgin in Condom https://cathnews.co.nz/2011/05/10/freedom-to-infuriate-flag-burning-and-virgin-in-condom/ Mon, 09 May 2011 19:01:07 +0000 http://cathnews.co.nz/?p=3830

Many people were outraged when they read that a woman who had burnt the New Zealand Flag at an ANZAC day ceremony has escaped conviction. "It is extraordinarily hard to defend freedom when it insults something you revere" says Anthony Hubbard. The fuss over the Virgin in a Condom statue at Te Papa was a good Read more

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Many people were outraged when they read that a woman who had burnt the New Zealand Flag at an ANZAC day ceremony has escaped conviction. "It is extraordinarily hard to defend freedom when it insults something you revere" says Anthony Hubbard. The fuss over the Virgin in a Condom statue at Te Papa was a good example. Many Catholics took great offence, and seemed to think that people with religious beliefs had a special right not to be offended. This is nonsense."

"The Supreme Court ruling in favour of flag-burner Valerie Morse "is a splendid thing that will disgust some people. But real freedom must include the freedom to infuriate." said Hubbard

Valerie Morse an activist who burned the New Zealand flag at an ANZACDay dawn service has had her conviction quashed by the Supreme Court. She was convicted, in Wellington District Court, of disorderly behaviour after her protest near the Cenotaph in Wellington in 2007. The conviction was upheld by the High Court and the Court of Appeal, but Ms Morse challenged that ruling all the way to the country's highest court and yesterday the Supreme Court quashed the conviction.

Its judgment found that the district court judge had misunderstood the meaning of offensive behaviour. While the five Supreme Court judges differed in their definitions of "offensive behaviour", most believed it had to be capable of "wounding feelings or arousing real anger, resentment disgust or outrage".

Steven Price, one of Morse's lawyers, says the judges found that protesters "can't be arrested and convicted for offensive behaviour unless the police can show there is a disturbance of public order".

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Anthony Hubbard Sunday Star Times

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