(We liked Pope Francis even when he was Jorge Bergoglio. This is the only story that ever brought down the whole website. People flocked to it after Cardinal Bergoglio was elected. - Ed. 2024)

Almost apologising for the actions of some priests, Bergoglio recalled the story of a young unmarried mother who had the courage to bring her child into the world and who then "found herself on a pilgrimage, going from parish to parish, trying to find someone who would baptise her child."

Vatican Insider reports that in his homily at the end of a Buenos Aires convention on urban pastoral care, Bergoglio called for an end to "sacramental blackmail" saying that "hijacking" of the sacraments is an expression of rigorous and hypocritical neo-clericalism.

"Sacraments are not a way for priests to affirm their own supremacy", said the Cardinal.

Rubbing the fragility and wounds of the faithful in their faces, or dampening the hopes and expectations of those who supposedly do not fulfil the 'requirements' in terms of doctrinal preparation, or moral status, is a pastorally misleading model which rejects the dynamics of Christ's incarnation.

"Jesus did not preach his own politics: he accompanied others", said Bergoglio.

Priests who deny the sacraments to people because of their life circumstances are the "hypocrites of today", and the "followers of the Pharisees", the ones Jesus turned his back on.

Emphasising that the Church is not an NGO or a proselyte of some multinational company", Bergoglio said denying baptism to children born out of wedlock is a form of "pharisaic Gnosticism" that "drives people away from salvation".

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• Vatican Insider
• The Tablet
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Fr. Guillermo Ortiz is an Argentinian Jesuit who works at Vatican Radio: he is covering the Pope's trip to Mexico and recalls how, when Bergoglio was rector and spiritual director of the Colegio Máximo, he would speak about spirituality and his own journey of faith, while also feeding the pigs.

He spoke to Vatican Insider about his experiences with the then rector, Bergoglio, and explained why popular devotion was so important to him.

Fr. Ortiz, what has the most important moment of the papal visit been so far?
His moment of prayer before Our Lady of Guadalupe, I think. The Pope's devotion for Mary is highly significant.

If you read over the speeches he gave during the first couple of days, one notices the great importance given to popular faith, the importance of the people.

The Catechism mentions papal infallibility on issues relating to faith and morality but we forget that the Catechism also mentions the infallibility of the people of God in the way they express the faith.

Speaking to Mexico's bishops on 13 February, the Pope in a pendulum and ultrasound -like way, described Mary and then spoke about the people, with the umbilical cord of popular piety.

He invited bishops to bend over the womb of the people's faith. Mary's womb carries the Son of God and the holy people of God.

Does the Pope "learn" from people's faith?
He said he was coming here to learn before he left for Mexico. The Pope is a son of Mary but he is also a son of the people of God.

He knows that God acts among the people, he knows the sensus fidei of the people, the poor people who have nothing. Continue reading

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• Vatican Insider
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At the time, Bertone was the Vatican's Secretary of State, having traveled to a village in northern Patagonia "in the name of His Holiness Benedict XVI" to preside over the beatification of a turn-of-the-century religious student.

Bertone's wooden armchair sits on a dais that puts him a good six inches higher than Bergoglio, the Archbishop of Buenos Aires, who perches uncomfortably on his metal-and-plastic seat, and the man known to many as the "vice-pope" occupies his virtual throne with kingly complacency, clad in yards of fine Italian filetto lace beneath his golden chasuble, with a sporty pair of aviator sunglasses to complement his gold-embroidered miter (and is that a Rolex on his wrist?).

Next to him, in Jesuit black under plain white robes, Cardinal Bergoglio, with his iron cross and his horn-rimmed spectacles, looks open-mouthed upon the radiant spectacle, his famously mobile face providing the perfect caption to the picture.

Six years later, Bergoglio became Pope Francis, and things have not been the same since.

On May 19, the glossy, gossipy German newspaper Bild Zeitung printed a report that made immediate headlines in Italy: Vatican prosecutors had begun to investigate allegations that Cardinal Bertone, as the Holy See's Number Two from 2006 to 2013, had embezzled 15 million euros ($20 million) from Vatican accounts, apparently to benefit an Italian television producer, a former director of the state broadcaster RAI named Ettore Bernabei, with deep connections to Italy's conservative establishment and a longtime membership in the powerful Catholic organisation Opus Dei.

The transfer of these funds allegedly occurred in December 2012. The Vatican press corps swiftly denied that a "criminal investigation" was underway, and Bertone himself insisted that the deal had followed "all the rules." Continue reading.

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But then-Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio, being frugal, would save the rubber bands and return them in a ball at the end of every month.

Guide Javier Cortese offered the anecdote while leading tours around central Buenos Aires, where the local government and private companies alike have capitalised on the popularity of Pope Francis.

Tour guides now take tourists to the most notable and mundane points — from his neighbourhood parish to the newspaper stand - visited by the pope during his life in Buenos Aires.

Cortese said the tours are nothing out of the ordinary, given the excitement in Buenos Aires over Pope Francis' unexpected election.

The idea for the tours "was hatched the same day" of the March 2013 election, he said.

The Buenos Aires government was quick to embrace Pope Francis' election; it investigated his past and put plaques at places like his childhood home.

Despite the early excitement, the tours in Buenos Aires may be running their course and, at some places, bring more bother than benefits. Continue reading.

Image: Javier Cortese, centre, leads tours of sites important or notable during the life of Pope Francis CNS/David Agren

This is the assessment of Italian journalist Nello Scavo, who has just released a book recounting Father Jorge Mario Bergoglio's efforts in helping Argentines escape persecution by the military dictatorship.

"The picture that emerges of Bergoglio is that of a capable man, who acted with the prudence and shrewdness of a 007," Scavo told Vatican Radio.

During much of the 1970s, Argentina was ruled by a right-wing military government, which "disappeared" thousands of left-wing activists and militants, accusing them of communism.

Numerous priests and religious were killed for their work in the poor neighbourhoods of Buenos Aires, which was considered a communist act.

During this time, Father Bergoglio — now Pope Francis — used his position to create an underground network of assistance and escape for those targeted by the dictatorship.

Scavo, a journalist with the Italian bishops' newspaper Avvenire, said it's not possible to give precise estimates of how many lives Bergoglio saved, mainly because he never wanted to talk about his efforts. He also did not collaborate on the book.

But the author cautiously estimates that "more than 100 people were certainly saved" by the Jesuit priest and many others — perhaps more than 1200 — were "indirectly saved" by his actions.

Ironically, at the time the future pope was accused of complicity with the regime, critics saying he was too silent about the human rights abuses taking place.

Scavo has titled his book Bergoglio's List, referring to the famous list maintained by Oskar Schindler, the German businessman who saved some 1200 Jews from being murdered during the Holocaust.

Schindler, incidentally, lived for nearly 10 years in Argentina following World War II, while Pope Francis was a teenager and young adult.

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Catholic News Agency

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Perón died in 1974 and within two years the country descended into another military dictatorship and a cruel "dirty war". Guerrilla groups sprang up, specialising in bombings, kidnappings and assassinations; the military waged firefights with them and arrested thousands of innocent people suspected of fellow-travelling. The military death squads imprisoned, tortured and killed an estimated 30,000 people. Under the leadership of General Leopoldo Galtieri, the junta eventually fell apart only after the Falklands debacle, signalling Argentina's return to a uneasy form of populist, corporatist-style "democracy".

Meanwhile, Father Bergoglio climbed the Catholic hierarchy steadily. Known for his "option for the poor" (he ate in soup kitchens and took the bus), he nevertheless distanced himself from the liberation theology movements associated with left-wing Jesuits elsewhere in Latin America. Had he not done so, he would never have risen to the episcopate under John Paul II's papacy; and he might well have been found dead in a ditch - just one more clerical victim of the dirty war.

There are tales that as a senior Jesuit priest he failed to intercede with the junta to free two slum-worker priests from prison and torture. One family that lost a daughter and granddaughter accuses him of lying when he told a tribunal that he had no knowledge of the "stealing" of children from suspected dissidents. The allegations are unsafe, but no one can doubt that he came safely through those dark years by weighing every word and action with consummate care. Continue reading

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• New Statesman
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Cardinal Christoph Schönborn, the Archbishop of Vienna, said he had personally had two "strong signs" that Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio was "the chosen one" in the run-up to voting.

He said only divine intervention could explain the speed with which the Argentine cardinal — who did not feature on any of the main lists of likely candidates compiled by Vatican experts — was elected.

Speaking to an Anglican conference in London, he also said the new Archbishop of Canterbury, Archbishop Justin Welby, had a "strange similarity" to the new Pope.

He said that the two elections were a "little miracle" and a "sign from the Lord" that the two churches should work towards closer unity.

Cardinal Schönborn said he was certain that on the evening of March 12, as the papal conclave began, none of the cardinals knew who would be chosen.

"It was a tremendous experience of the Holy Spirit," he said. "We were driven by the Holy Spirit to this man — he was sitting in the last corner of the Sistine Chapel: This man he is the chosen one."

He added: "I received at least two strong signs: one I can tell, the other was in the conclave I can't speak about — but real signs of the Lord giving me indication ‘he is the one'."

The cardinal said that just after a special Mass before the conclave began he came across a couple from Latin America who are friends of his.

He said: "I met them outside the basilica and I asked: ‘You have the Holy Spirit, can you give me advice for the conclave that will start in a few hours?'

"And the woman whispered in my ear ‘Bergoglio', and it hit me really: If these people say Bergoglio, that's an indication of the Holy Spirit.

"And I'm sure many of us have received similar signs during the conclave, [or] it wouldn't have been possible to have this election so soon and so rapidly."

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The Telegraph

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Fondness and confessions

The wave of affection for the new Pope is undeniable, with requests to attend papal audiences skyrocketing. Bergoglio has made contact with the crowds a focal point of his papacy. He spends a great deal of time among the faithful in St. Peter's Square, getting out of the pope-mobile to greet them. During last Wednesday's General Audience he dedicated almost half an hour to talking about contact with people and faithful. Some are sceptical and even irritated by this "honey moon" between the Pope and the people, expecting things to turn sour any minute. This could happen for example if the Pope adopts a rigid stance in the field of sexual morality. It would be a mistake to believe that this new relationship is being blown out of proportion by the media. Pope Francis spoke of mercy right from the outset and this triggered something deeper than mere fondness in the hearts of faithful. So many approached the Catholic faith again after decades of estrangement from the Church and they themselves say Francis' words are to thank for this.

The Sanctae Marthae residence

Although he is now Pope, Francis has not really changed since his days as Archbishop of Buenos Aires. His style is still the same and this has contributed to alterations being made to the Vatican's set protocol. His personal style has been leading the Catholic Church in the direction of a sobriety and simplicity that faithful recognise and appreciate. Continue reading

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• Deacon Greg Kandra in The Deacon's Bench
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Deacon Greg Kandra is a Roman Catholic deacon serving the Diocese of Brooklyn, New York.

The dialogue between Archbishop Jorge Mario Bergoglio and Rabbi Abraham Skorka has just been published in English by Image Books, with the title On Heaven and Earth: Pope Francis on Faith, Family, and the Church in the 21st Century.

"When a priest leads a diocese or a parish, he has to listen to his community, to make mature decisions and lead the community accordingly," the future Pope said.

"In contrast, when the priest imposes himself, when in some way he says, ‘I am the boss here', he falls into clericalism."

On worldly priests, he said: "One Catholic theologian, Henri de Lubac, says that the worst that can happen to those that are anointed and called to service is that they live with the criteria of the world instead of the criteria that the Lord commands from the tablets of the law and the Gospel. The worst that can happen in the priestly life is to be worldly, to be a ‘light' bishop or a ‘light' priest."

Other comments from the future Pope Francis include:

On the Devil: "Maybe his [the Devil's] greatest achievement in these times has been to make us believe that he does not exist, and that all can be fixed on a purely human level…. Man's life on Earth is warfare; Job says it, meaning that people are constantly put to the test; that is to say, a test to overcome a situation and overcome oneself."

On opening the Vatican's World War II-era archives relating to Pope Pius XII: "They should open them and clarify everything. Then it can be seen if they could have done something, to what extent it could have been done, and if we were wrong in something we will be able to say: ‘We were wrong in this.' We do not have to be afraid of that. The objective has to be the truth."

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Zenit

National Catholic Reporter

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On the Pope's record in Argentina, Allen says:

= Despite Archbishop Jorge Bergoglio's reputation as an opponent of liberation theology during the 1970s, historian Roberto Bosca insists that wasn't actually the case. He said Bergoglio accepted the premise of liberation theology, especially the option for the poor, but in a "nonideological" fashion.

= The Wall Street Journal reported that the bishops' conference of Argentina failed to meet a Vatican-imposed deadline of May 2012 for submitting a formal set of policies on fighting child abuse, noting that Bergoglio is the former president of the conference.

But Allen says Bergoglio's term as president ended in November 2011, and the bishops say the task was delayed until after a February 2012 summit on abuse in Rome, organised to give bishops' conferences information on best practices.

= Though the director of the Argentinian Catholic Information Agency insisted that Bergoglio would "never" have favoured any legal recognition of same-sex unions, two senior officials of the bishops' conference told Allen he supported civil unions.

= As for allegations that Bergoglio failed to oppose the "Dirty War" of the former military dictatorship, Allen was told there is no record of him being either a supporter or a critic of the regime.

"Bergoglio was not really a church authority back then," said the historian Roberto Bosca. "He wasn't a bishop yet in Buenos Aires, he was simply the regional superior of a religious order. The nature of his job didn't lend itself to taking positions for or against the government, and my impression is that during that period was simply trying to do his job."

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National Catholic Reporter

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The gathering was yet more evidence of a church undergoing a fundamental shift. Riven by scandal, mired in countless dramas over leaked Vatican documents, worn down by squabbling over the return of retro-liturgies, the Catholic church has seemed an exhausted organisation in recent years. Now there is a pope who, despite his 76 years, seems vibrant and engaging and offers a different perspective - focusing on matters of justice.

The Argentinian pope's emphasis on working with the poor will delight Catholics in Britain and in the poorest parts of the planet, where there is a vast network of Catholic schools, health care provision and social services. But this pope is emphatic that the church can't just be a version of Oxfam: it always has to put Christ at its centre. While he said that he had taken his papal name from Francis of Assisi, his approach - social action alongside deep spirituality - is typical of his own Jesuit order and its founder saints, Ignatius Loyola and Francis Xavier.

He also spoke of wanting a church that is poor. To Vatican-watchers, this is code for saying that he wants it to be more humble. He himself is eschewing the trappings of office. Rather than wear the red slippers beloved of his predecessor, Benedict XVI, he has opted for plain black shoes. Rather than sit on the papal throne to meet the cardinals, he walked over to greet them and kissed several on each cheek. Continue reading

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• Catherine Pepinster in The Guardian
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Catherine Pepinster is editor of The Tablet.

Several prominent rights groups in Argentina say the archbishop went out of his way in recent years to stand with secular organizations against crimes such as sex trafficking and child prostitution.

The rights groups say that Bergoglio's resolve strengthened as new cases of molestation emerged in the archdiocese and that he eventually instructed bishops to immediately report all abuse allegations to police.

But The Post says during most of the 14 years that Bergoglio served as archbishop of Buenos Aires, rights advocates say, he did not take decisive action to protect children or act swiftly when molestation charges surfaced; nor did he extend apologies to the victims of abusive priests after their misconduct came to light.

"He has been totally silent," said Ernesto Moreau, a member of Argentina's U.N.-affiliated Permanent Assembly for Human Rights and a lawyer who has represented victims in a clergy sexual-abuse case.

Victims asked to meet with Bergoglio but were turned down, Moreau said. "In that regard, Bergoglio was no different from most of the other bishops in Argentina, or the Vatican itself."

In September, after an Argentine priest from a rural area was convicted of abusing dozens of boys between 1984 and 1992, the archbishop's office released a statement saying the case had "reaffirmed our profound shame and the immense pain that result from the grave mistakes committed by someone who should be setting the moral example."

Aljazera reports claims suggesting that Bergoglio was friendly with the military dictatorship seem less credible because Bergoglio was a young priest at the time of the Dirty War.

Media have released a photo, supposedly of Bergoglio giving Holy Communion to General Jorge Rafael Videla, but Aljazeera points out, they omit to mention the man giving the general Communion cannot be identified and is clearly too old to be Bergoglio.

While Aljazeera has other pictures suggesting the church hierarchy was likely complicit with the military dictatorship, at the time of the Dirty War, Bergoglio was in his 40's, leader of the Jesuits in Argentina, and not a bishop.

Buenos Aires reporter Lucia Newman said opinion in Argentina is unclear whether Bergoglio did or did not do sufficient to reduce human rights abuses, but all acknowledge he was not a bishop at the time.

Newman says the current priority in Argentina is not the past, but on social justice, and fixing the current problems the Catholic Church is facing.

She says Bergoglio gets high marks as a bishop in Argentina.

Newman says before leaving for the Conclave Bergoglio gave an interview to a leading Argentinian journalist, Joaquin Morales Solia.

Bergoglio told the reporter he did not have a chance in being elected pope, that he was too old.

With this background, Bergoglio told the journalist what he would have done had he become elected.

One of the things he spoke about was the need to eradicate the corruption from the gilded palaces of the Vatican.

"Everyone knows who the corrupt cardinals are," he was quoted as saying.

He also said that the Vatican Bank needed to be cleaned up and made immediately transparent.

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• Aljazera
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The traditional blog, claims to have friends all around the world, including Argentina, where Marcelo Gonzalez of Panorama Catolico International, claims to give local in sight into the local archbishop.

Republishing Gonzalez piece in English, Rorate Caeli says Bergoglio is "a known enemy of the traditional Mass" only "allowing imitation of it in the hands of declared enemies of the ancient liturgy".

It claims that as Archbishop of Buenos Aires, Bergoglio "persecuted every single priest who made an effort to wear a cassock, and preach with firmness."

Bergoglio is "famous for his inconsistency and for the intelligibility of his addresses and homilies", says the publication.

Calling Bergoglio loose in doctrine and liturgy, Rorate Caeli says he has "not missed any occasion for holding acts in which he lent his Cathedral to Protestants, Muslims, Jews and even to partisan groups in the name of an impossible and unnecessary inter-religous dialogue."

Rorate Caeli claims Bergoglio has been blessed by Protestant ministers in common acts of worship and has not fought against abortion and only weakly against homosexual marriage.

It concludes, "It really cannot be what Benedict wanted for the Church."

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• Rorate Caeli
• Panorama Catolico
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Questions linger about Bergoglio's actions during the nation's dark days: the so-called Dirty War, when Argentina was ruled by dictators.

Possibly the darkest period during Bergoglio's rise to power took place when he served as the nation's top Jesuit.

In 1976, during Argentina's dictatorship, the navy kidnapped priests Orlando Yorio and Francisco Jalics. Some have accused Bergoglio, then provincial superior for the Society of Jesus, of not doing enough to assert his influence and free them. They were found five months later.

The incident led to rumors and allegations that Bergoglio was complicit in the dictatorship's appalling atrocity — that he didn't do enough to expose it and perhaps was even partly responsible for the priests' prolonged detention, said Jim Nicholson, a former U.S. ambassador to the Holy See.

Although the allegations against Bergoglio have never been proved, they continue to haunt him, so much so that the human rights group Center for Legal and Social Studies in Argentina opposes Bergoglio's selection as pope.

Situations relating to the priests' kidnappings "have not been clarified," said the group's director, Gaston Chillier.

Many of the allegations against Bergoglio were researched by Argentine journalist Horacio Verbitsky, (an investigative journalist with a past history as a leftist guerrilla,) who wrote a book about the church's role during the dictatorship.

In a 2010 column, Verbitsky alleged that Bergoglio had lied under oath during an investigation into the theft of babies from prisoners during the dictatorship.

Bergoglio testified that he never knew about the baby-stealing until after the dictatorship had fallen, Verbitsky wrote, but a victim Verbitsky interviewed claims that Bergoglio knew about it at the time. She said she had written to Francis about it.

Nicholson said there is no evidence to support the allegations. Continue reading

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Margaret Hebblethwaite has been watching Cardinal Bergoglio for the last 10 years, she has heard two differing and conflicting opinions expressed about him. Humble and authoritarian. One is progressive and open, the other is very conservative.

While not someone who talks to the media, Bergoglio spoke twice with Hebblethwaite.

Hebblethwaite says it is clear the two Jesuits felt betrayed by Bergoglio because instead of endorsing their work and protecting them, he demanded they leave the barrio. And when they refused, they had to leave the Jesuit order.

When they later "disappeared" and tortured, it seemed to many that Bergoglio had been siding with the repression, Hebblethwaite wrote in the Guardian.

"It was the kind of complex situation that is capable of multiple interpretations, but it is far more likely Bergoglio was trying to save their lives," wrote Hebblethwaite.

Nobel Prize peace winner Adolfo Perez Esquivel said that Bergoglio had no links with the dictatorship. "There were bishops who were accomplices of the dictatorship, but it was not the case of Bergoglio."

"Bergoglio was questioned because it is said he did not do enough to get out of jail two priests, as he was the Superior of the Jesuits. But I know personally that many bishops called on the military junta for the release of prisoners and priests and these requests were not granted", said Perez Esquivel.

Fr Orland Yorio has since died, however Franz Jalics SJ, also known in Argentina as Francisco Jalics, now lives and works in Germany.

The Jesuits in Germany posted a statement from Father Jalics about the events surrounding his kidnapping online on Friday.

Starting in 1957 I lived in Buenos Aires. In the year 1974, moved by an inner wish to live the gospel and to draw attention to the terrible poverty, and with the permission of Archbishop Aramburu and the then-Provincial Fr. Jorge Mario Bergoglio I moved together with a confrere into a "Favela," one of the city's slums. From there we continued our teaching at the university.

In the civil-war-like situation back then, the military junta killed roughly 30,000 people within one to two years, leftist guerrillas as well as innocent civilians. The two of us in the slum had contact neither with the junta nor with the guerrillas. Partly due to the lack of information and through targeted misinformation our situation was also misunderstood within the church. At this time we lost our connection to one of our lay coworkers who had joined the guerrillas. After he was taken prisoner nine months later by the soldiers of the junta and questioned, they learned that he had been connected with us. Under the assumption that we also had something to do with the guerrillas we were arrested. After five days of interrogation the officer who led the questioning dismissed us with the words, "Fathers, you were not guilty. I will ensure that you can return to the poor district." In spite of this pledge, we were then inexplicably held in custody, blindfolded and bound, for five months. I cannot comment on the role of Fr. Bergoglio in these events.

After we were freed I left Argentina. Only years later did we have the chance to discuss what had happened with Fr. Bergoglio, who in the meantime had been named archbishop of Buenos Aires. Afterwards we together celebrated a public mass and solemnly embraced. I am reconciled to the events and view them from my side as concluded.

I wish Pope Francis God's rich blessing for his office.

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• Jesuits Germany
• The Guardian
• Buenos Aires Herald

Rabbi David Rosen, the director of interfaith affairs for the American Jewish Committee, said that the new pope is a "warm and sweet and modest man" known in Buenos Aires for doing his own cooking and personally answering his phone.

After the bombing of the AMIA Jewish community center in 1994, he "showed solidarity with the Jewish community," Rosen said.

In 2005, Bergoglio was the first public personality to sign a petition for justice in the AMIA bombing case. He also was one of the signatories on a document called "85 victims, 85 signatures" as part of the bombing's 11th anniversary. In June 2010, he visited the rebuilt AMIA building to talk with Jewish leaders.

"Those who said Benedict was the last pope who would be a pope that lived through the Shoah, or that said there would not be another pope who had a personal connection to the Jewish people, they were wrong," Rosen said.

Renzo Gattegna, the president of the Union of Italian Jewish Communities, offered Italian Jewry's congratulations to the new pope with the "most fervent wishes" that his pontificate could bring "peace and brotherhood to all humanity."

In particular, Gattegna voiced the hope that there would be a continuation "with reciprocal satisfaction" of "the intense course of dialogue that the Jews have always hoped for and that has been also realized through the work of the popes who have led the church in the recent past."

Israel Singer, the former head of the World Jewish Congress, said he spent time working with Bergoglio when the two were distributing aid to the poor in Buenos Aires in the early 2000s, part of a joint Jewish-Catholic program called Tzedaka.

"We went out to the barrios where Jews and Catholics were suffering together," Singer told JTA. "If everyone sat in chairs with handles, he would sit in the one without. He was always looking to be more modest. He's going to find it hard to wear all these uniforms."

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• Harretz